Nov. 9, 2024

Rock Legends, Halloween Nostalgia, and a Case of Poison Oak

Rock Legends, Halloween Nostalgia, and a Case of Poison Oak

Join The Ricker and I are not holding back as we go into the realm of rock music, taking on the icons and questioning how they have lasted with some of the crappy music some have put out!

00:11 - Almost Famous Radio Podcast

06:54 - Critiquing Rock Icons

13:42 - Underrated and Overrated Rock Singers

21:28 - Rock Singers and Bands Critique

32:27 - Perfect Song Debates

38:03 - Music Legends and Tragic Losses

48:48 - Rock Band and Singer Discussions

01:03:08 - Winter Topics and Listener Feedback

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from our humble backyard studio.

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This is the almost famous radio podcast with your host jeffy mcjefferson.

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Let's go, and welcome to the Almost Famous Radio Podcast.

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Jeffy McJefferson, here, along with little Rick App.

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Hey, what's up, man?

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You see it.

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Yeah, of course we go around the table.

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We'll go across the table today.

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Right, what do you got?

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I have a Ninkasi Red IPA.

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Yeah, interesting.

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You're going to have one by the end of this.

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It's really good, probably after one by the end of this.

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It's really good, probably after this, because I got bodys off.

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Uh, yeah, you know what I love that stuff.

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Anyway, yeah, go ahead and explain, um, what we're, what you were talking about, man, because what happened to you last weekend ah well, it was opening weekend, deer season and ders, we were out and I managed to catch nothing but poison oak.

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So it's really cool.

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Yeah, poor Rickerman, his arms are all jacked and he got it in his eye.

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Yeah, it's not good.

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But hopefully I'll get taken care of this week.

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And it's not, you know, it's really funny, it comes and goes.

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How irritating it is.

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Yeah, yeah, sometimes it's like funny it comes and goes how irritating it is.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Sometimes it's like you don't even notice it, even though you're covered in it yeah.

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Then other times it's like I want to scratch the shit out every piece of skin I got.

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Yeah, are you giving out Halloween candy this year?

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I'm saying use it to your advantage here.

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Yeah, I may or may not, I don't know.

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I usually do, but I always end up it's like I don't know the kids.

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They just don't come through the neighborhood, like I don't think it's as big of a deal as it used to be for us well, I'm the same, because we, we, you know, red goes, couponing and all that kind of jazz and and she's got like a bunch of Halloween candy that she gets for next to nothing, of course, of course, and we never get kids hardly here.

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Yeah, I mean it's kind of funny.

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I'm great with you know, I'm fine with the little kids coming through, but you know, when it gets towards 9 o'clock and it gets to be teenagers with pillowcases and you know.

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Well, 9 o'clock, that's way past.

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It's like, yeah, I'm done, you guys go buy your own candy.

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What?

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does it even fall on this year?

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I didn't even look to see what day it fell on.

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It's probably going to be like a Tuesday, Wednesday.

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So it's a weekday yeah, I think so Might even be Thursday and plus you know what those truck or treat things have really taken over for kids and parents and stuff like that.

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Yeah, where you go to a place, and yeah.

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Because I mean, like you know, the myth of the razor blades and the apples.

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I know Lord knows where that started.

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You know, you've heard of that, you've heard it.

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Oh sure, when I was a kid.

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Yeah, we all heard it, we were kids, man oh yeah, so number one.

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it's like if somebody gives you an apple, it's like fuck that.

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Yeah, it's not candy, I want the candy yeah.

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You know.

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And number two I don't know where that razor blade shit started, but it's like, come on, well, you never know, it may have had some kind of origin and truth, but how long ago was this?

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And where was it at?

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It was a long yeah, Because you never seen real reports of it, I guess.

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I never heard one when I was a kid.

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You should Google it, because you got Google now.

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And.

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I never knew it.

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Nobody in our neighborhood even gave out apples.

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No, hell no.

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And they gave out big candy bars.

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Then too.

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They didn't have these little bite-sized sons of bitches.

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Yeah, yeah, and I remember it was either candy or Do you remember those little booklets that the church would give out?

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It was like a picture book of a Bible story.

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Do you remember those getting passed out during Halloween?

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No, I don't yeah, yeah, well, that's the one year difference between you and I.

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It probably stopped right with me, maybe I don't yeah, yeah, Well, that's the one year difference between you and I probably stopped right with me.

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Maybe I don't know it's just like but.

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That's what it was.

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It was always wrap candy or those.

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The wrap candy was that came in the orange and black.

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They're kind of like peanut butterish or something.

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Yeah.

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You know they were okay, but you know I could always do without candy corn.

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Yeah, I hate it.

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Every once in a while it tastes okay, but it's like so rarely.

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It's so sweet it makes your teeth, you know, slime over.

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And then you got like always got the good old sweet tarts and uh, right, and the chico sticks, yep, and stuff like that.

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And then the candy bars and stuff.

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Yeah, that was right.

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But yeah, I guess they did have the miniatures back then, but they were all like hershey's miniatures and right and uh, I know, when I was a kid I didn't like the dark chocolate.

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I love dark chocolate now, but back then I'm like I kid, I didn't like the dark chocolate.

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I love dark chocolate now, but back then I felt ripped off Right when you got dark chocolate Instead of milk chocolate.

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Instead of milk chocolate, or like a crunch bar or whatever they had in them, you know, in the almond thing or whatever you know Good.

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Bar, mr Good Bar, Mr Good Bar, yeah.

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Yeah, we were talking at Cartwright today this is totally off the Halloween subject, but about you and I.

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We like music.

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In the words of Joe Dirt rockers through and through, pretty much.

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Yeah.

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So we were talking about successful singers with shitty voices.

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And so we were talking about successful singers with shitty voices, and we can start with you.

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And first one you can start with, and then let's talk about why I think that.

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Well, it was actually yours when we were talking before, but my number one's got gotta be Springsteen.

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Yeah, I mean, he just has to follow it in the top spot.

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I don't understand it either.

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I don't.

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I don't understand, Sorry.

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I don't understand the obsession with them.

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I don't know.

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I don't know, maybe you know I maybe they put on a really good live show.

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I don't know, I'd never go because I don't like the music particularly at all.

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A couple songs, I don't mind A couple songs I don't mind.

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I hate the fact that they call Born to Run a rock anthem, the rock anthem of all.

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Don't tell me what a rock anthem is.

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It's not that yeah it isn't.

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I hate the song.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I like the stuff like.

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I like glory days and stuff like that, but nothing major I can't really think of good.

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Yeah yeah, it's not like you're going to go for a drive just to listen to it.

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If it comes on the radio and you feel like it, you won't turn it off.

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That's as close as you get to liking it right um one of mine and we were like I said, we talked about it.

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It's like bob dylan, absolutely.

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The guy's voice is like terrible yep, and he's like he's I mean, he's iconic to people yeah I don't why I don't know I mean seriously, I I don't think I've heard any song of his that he sings, right.

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Okay, I had to clarify that because we were talking about hendrix and yeah along the watchtower right but any song of his.

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And then he's got that goofy microphone holder and then he plays harmonica.

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He's got that goofy harmonica holder and he plays harmonica too.

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Which harmonica drives me bats, does it really?

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I don't even know.

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Is there any good songs with harmonica?

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Besides, I don't even know if that is Well Alvin and Chipmunks.

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He wanted a harmonica.

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But I mean, come on, is there any good harmonica songs?

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Oh my gosh, See, now I'm going to have to think about that, and I don't Not really.

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Not really going to have to think about that and I don't, uh, not really, not really, not that I can think of.

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Did piano man from billy joe have harmonica?

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Was that a harmonica?

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Yeah, I think it is I think that may be the only tolerable probably harmonica song.

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Yeah, I think that is.

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I think that is a harmonica.

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Yeah, and so any harmonica song for me is out Pretty much Thumbs down, way down hugely down.

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Yeah, okay, so we got Dylan and we got Bruce Springsteen.

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So it's back to me.

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We can just talk about any of the guys that we talked about today, because I think we should.

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Okay, well, neil Young.

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Neil Young has a shitty voice.

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Yep, he might have been good in harmony with, you know, crosby, stills, nash and Young, but Again, as a solo act, yikes.

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I can deal with Rockin' in the Free World.

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I kind of like that song.

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Okay.

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The lyrics.

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I really don't give a shit about that much on that.

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Usually I like songs because of lyrics, but I just kind of think the song's kind of cool sounding it is.

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He's not a bad songwriter.

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He's not a great songwriter, but he's not a bad songwriter.

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He had some okay songs, but again overrated and terrible voice.

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Thanks to Ronnie Van Zant calling his ass out.

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Southern men don't need him around anyhow.

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Right yeah.

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Because they don't need him around.

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That's it, they don't.

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they don't need him around, that's it, he can fuck off go back to canada go back to canada or you know, do whatever you need to do.

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That's all.

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That's all perfectly fine.

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We we kind of disagreed on david lee roth yeah, I I know you liked him I like him and I thought that he, uh, he was a good complement to the music, but he is not a great singer, but he sounded good, like I said, the first three or four albums that they put out they were all good, they were great.

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I liked them.

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And I was also talking about Sammy when he joined the band.

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I really liked Sammy when he joined the band.

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I really liked Sammy when he joined the band.

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I know that we kind of got a little disappointed in Ed because he wanted to do a lot of keyboards and shit.

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Right.

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But he started that with David Lee Roth and, like I said, jump.

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He did.

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That song Jump.

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I couldn't stand it.

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Yeah, you know, yeah, well, you know, they jumped right out of there at that point because they sucked.

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And well, you know, they jumped right out of there at that point because I sucked.

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Well, you know I got to hand it to Roth because he was kind of getting pissed off at it.

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He wanted to keep you know rock, rock, solid songs, and right, he didn't want to throw keyboards in there.

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Yeah.

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And they did.

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And they did.

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That's Ed's band.

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So what the hell are you going to do?

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You're going to fight him.

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No, no him no no, so then sammy came along and they they did a few things with keyboards and stuff like that man, but at least you know it brought another guitar into the fold it did, it did and so that's what I love about it too, and plus I like sammy hagar, so that helps yeah, and hagar's got a a.

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I wouldn't say he had a great voice, but he's a better singer than David Lee Roth, definitely.

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Yeah, I think that's pretty apparent.

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Yeah, we went to that.

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We went to some shitty singers.

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Well, even you said Hendrix wasn't a great singer no but serviceable, serviceable yeah, and he, he did.

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okay, you know, he, um, that's like, that's like uh, um, oh gosh, dang it uh.

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Stevie rayughan, yeah, I mean, he was a good singer, but not a great singer.

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He was a really good.

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I thought he was really good for the style of music.

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His voice was very complimentary of that type of blues music.

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It's funny because I was talking, I was about to leave Cartwright's you had left before and Caroline and Krista was there and I didn't mention this and I said most successful singer with a shitty voice and the first thing that popped up in her was Janis Joplin.

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Oh, so she, Krista, that was her first one, right?

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up her head, yeah.

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And I agreed with her totally.

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Yeah, and I agreed with her totally.

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Yeah, I, it was a screeching, not one song of hers I like None.

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I can tolerate them, but it's not something I'd seek out.

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Absolutely not.

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No, I would, I would just assume, go through a root canal or something like that, not worth throwing stones at.

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Oh hell no.

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As you like to say, I can't stand it.

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Yeah, and, like I said, ian Anderson from Jethro Tull, I can't stand Jethro Tull.

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And then I thought his, I think his voice it's just Aqualon.

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Yeah, you know like, come on, and what the fuck is an Aqualung?

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I?

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And then every song, a lot of songs that he'd come up with after that.

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You know he brought up Aqualung in the lyrics.

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Right, I'm like okay, whatever the hell that is, I probably should look it up.

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A lot of people probably gonna know, oh, come, come on, dumbass.

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You don't know what aqualung is, but I know it's a song I know those songs sucks, and I know that he freaking kept bringing up aqualung.

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After that I'm like that's terrible, terrible, terrible stuff.

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Yeah, I don't have the hatred for it that you do, but again another, another band that I would seek out very much hatred yeah, well you know, because it it just sucks.

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And who else are we talking about?

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gosh dang.

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Uh, well, I thought we started talking about singers that were underrated.

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Well, we did that, but I I'm sure I'm missing some yeah, because I, I because I didn't think Plant was good and you thought Plant was all right.

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Yeah, I think he was pretty decent.

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You know, and stuff like that.

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I don't like his voice.

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His voice ain't great, but he's yeah, but again there's one of those things where it's like could you put anybody else singing those songs?

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Can you think of anybody who'd do it better?

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I don't know.

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And see, I love Ozzy, I love his music, but I think his voice stinks.

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Yeah, you know.

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Yeah, I just don't you know.

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Great songs.

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Great songs.

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Some freaking great albums.

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And of course he's got, you course, as we said before, a lot of compliments, complimentary to the style of music that they did, things like that, but voice-wise not so much.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And then we had some trouble thinking of successful singers with great voices in the rock side.

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Or even on you.

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You know we have mentioned a couple of other ones, but yeah, I mean uh, oh, another shitty one real quick, willie nelson, yeah yeah, no doubt terrible yeah yeah, absolutely.

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I really don't even like a song, I don't know, I don't know.

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A willie song I like on the road again makes me want to kick somebody in the teeth was it?

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it wasn't.

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Uh, you were always on my mind, and that one is you know, I guess that was tolerable I think I not not by him, but you know there were other people that sang it that right okay, pretty deep you know yeah it was okay it's kind of really good.

00:17:02.666 --> 00:17:13.267
It's kind of a good song right so I'll go ahead, and I'll go ahead and give him a little bit of props for that, even though that yeah yeah, he's, but he quit smoking weed, so that's a yeah, what an idiot.

00:17:13.287 --> 00:17:14.355
Because what is he like?

00:17:14.415 --> 00:17:14.576
what?

00:17:14.576 --> 00:17:16.799
What I mean because, like what is he?

00:17:16.799 --> 00:17:33.527
I know I'm not proponent, you know a proponent of weed smoking, but he's like what, 90-some-odd years old, yeah, and he drank and he smoked pot and he did all this other shit and then he lived until he was living into his 90s and then he stopped.

00:17:33.527 --> 00:17:39.003
I mean, I'm just waiting for him to croak over just because of the fact Right, because, yeah, the detox kills him.

00:17:39.003 --> 00:17:40.837
I mean, what do you got to lose now?

00:17:40.837 --> 00:17:43.663
I mean, you're living on borrowed time anyway.

00:17:44.145 --> 00:17:45.188
Yeah, yeah.

00:17:45.575 --> 00:17:47.983
I mean, hell, this guy's like okay, so I'm going to stop smoking.

00:17:47.983 --> 00:17:50.743
Yeah, I don't believe it one bit anyway.

00:17:51.595 --> 00:17:59.538
Yeah, I don't know, I don't think so, I don't think so I just have a hard time believing that.

00:18:00.420 --> 00:18:03.987
You know he stopped smoking weed.

00:18:03.987 --> 00:18:08.501
Yeah, I believe, like Seth Rogen.

00:18:08.501 --> 00:18:11.608
If he said it I'd definitely call him a liar Right?

00:18:11.608 --> 00:18:17.039
I think that Willie Nelson saying it is just as much of a liar as Seth Rogen, even though Seth Rogen didn't say it.

00:18:17.059 --> 00:18:20.872
But I'm just saying Right, if he would have said it, you would have called bullshit on it right there.

00:18:20.991 --> 00:18:22.497
Absolutely, I'd call him bullshit.

00:18:22.497 --> 00:18:23.861
Totally bullshit singing right.

00:18:23.861 --> 00:18:26.528
If he would have said it, you would have said called bullshit on it right there, totally bullshit.

00:18:26.528 --> 00:18:26.808
So on on.

00:18:26.808 --> 00:18:40.247
On the other hand, the successful singers ahead great voices, either rock or even some of the country stuff uh, we had a few, yeah, I uh, we had a harder time thinking yeah, it's not an easy one.

00:18:40.287 --> 00:18:42.615
You said tommy shaw and I think that's probably.

00:18:44.078 --> 00:19:01.984
I'd say tommy shaw was probably up there and possibly underrated too I think underrated because dennis young got most of the most of the pub on that right but and I didn't think dennis young was that great, but but he could sing pretty good.

00:19:01.984 --> 00:19:04.560
Yeah, I like Styx.

00:19:05.856 --> 00:19:06.601
Yeah, they were fine.

00:19:07.636 --> 00:19:17.325
Oh, you know what Singers, successful singers and this is one we didn't mention and I'll bring it out right now Ann and Nancy Wilson, from Heart.

00:19:18.708 --> 00:19:18.887
Yeah.

00:19:19.675 --> 00:19:27.560
And also, I think, lindsey Buckingham and stevie nicks and christine mcvee from fleetwood.

00:19:27.560 --> 00:19:28.423
I don't think that they're.

00:19:28.423 --> 00:19:33.338
They had any flaws in their voices and they were all totally different and it worked.

00:19:33.338 --> 00:19:41.618
Yeah, you know yeah so that was one that just just now popped in my mind yeah, those are.

00:19:41.638 --> 00:19:43.565
Yeah, those are good ones, those are good ones.

00:19:44.095 --> 00:19:44.941
Because I like Fleetwood.

00:19:44.961 --> 00:19:49.560
Mac, yeah, yeah, I mean literally.

00:19:49.560 --> 00:19:55.914
You know how many times has Rumor's been said as the greatest rock album ever.

00:19:57.380 --> 00:19:58.022
I totally will.

00:19:58.022 --> 00:20:01.778
You know what I talked about that with Ron in the very first podcast, I think Did you.

00:20:01.778 --> 00:20:10.265
You know what I talked about that with Ron in the very first podcast, I think Did you, and we were talking about the best album, the perfect album, right, and to me that was the perfect album.

00:20:10.605 --> 00:20:10.826
Yeah.

00:20:11.125 --> 00:20:18.592
I don't see there's no flaws in that album, right, especially since they were all breaking up, right.

00:20:23.934 --> 00:20:25.238
And it's just flat brutal the way the songs were.

00:20:25.258 --> 00:20:26.059
Yeah, all freaking digs at each other.

00:20:26.080 --> 00:20:30.178
Yeah, they're, they're like totally and yet they came together and still made the music right.

00:20:30.598 --> 00:20:37.903
It's like okay yeah, and then even went on tour and stuff like that and they're promoting the record and then and and stuff like that and then.

00:20:37.903 --> 00:20:42.421
But it was, it was extremely brutal, yeah, what they did.

00:20:42.421 --> 00:20:54.769
And then they ended up putting out one of the best albums probably ever yeah way better than any beatles album uh, yeah, yeah, I'd say so because I'm I'm not a beatles fan.

00:20:54.888 --> 00:20:58.497
I think some of their stuff is okay, but it's a little too bubble gum for me.

00:20:58.497 --> 00:21:08.249
A lot of it and then and then the rest of it's like stupid hallucination yeah, psychedelic horror shit yeah yeah, and so I am, and I I don't get it.

00:21:08.249 --> 00:21:10.455
Maybe you could help me out on this.

00:21:10.455 --> 00:21:26.008
But everybody was like, okay, the beatles were my inspiration to start being a musician and I like why the only person I can think of with the Beatles that would inspire me was George Harrison, because I think he's a badass.

00:21:26.528 --> 00:21:28.030
Yeah, yeah, he was.

00:21:28.295 --> 00:21:31.665
But McCartney and Lennon I just didn't think were badasses.

00:21:32.895 --> 00:21:36.266
No, but they did have you know some of their music was pretty decent.

00:21:36.977 --> 00:21:37.819
They could write songs.

00:21:37.819 --> 00:21:39.376
I mean, I get that, yeah.

00:21:39.376 --> 00:21:47.540
But when they went out on their own a couple of lennon songs, I I thought was okay, not the ones.

00:21:47.540 --> 00:21:48.923
Everybody's thinking that.

00:21:48.923 --> 00:21:51.106
Imagine song I hate it, right.

00:21:51.106 --> 00:21:56.001
Um, um, that strange days indeed.

00:21:56.001 --> 00:21:58.267
Song I like it, yeah, I don't even know.

00:21:58.267 --> 00:22:00.939
That's really in the title of that song I don't, I don't know, paul.

00:22:00.939 --> 00:22:01.460
Mccartney.

00:22:01.460 --> 00:22:02.983
There's not much I really like.

00:22:03.585 --> 00:22:06.480
No, no, not a single thing.

00:22:06.480 --> 00:22:08.661
I don't like any of the Wings music.

00:22:09.363 --> 00:22:09.563
Yeah.

00:22:09.763 --> 00:22:10.486
I don't either, sorry.

00:22:11.277 --> 00:22:16.763
And then both of them have wives that were interjecting and everything, and they both couldn't sing worth a lick, Right?

00:22:16.763 --> 00:22:20.423
So screw that.

00:22:21.535 --> 00:22:28.182
Yeah, and like you said, george harris, not well, you got to give props to ringo ringo is kind of good ringo's kind of singer.

00:22:28.182 --> 00:22:46.838
But no, but I mean as far as somebody who takes the place of somebody and rides it for all it's worth and has been in a lot of good bands yeah I mean, he was in uh traveling wilburys right was he I think, so I thought it was him, wasn't it him?

00:22:47.079 --> 00:22:50.865
orbison tom petty I thought it was.

00:22:50.865 --> 00:23:01.086
It was george harrison, tom petty, jeff lynn of yellow and let's say, orbison already yeah yeah, okay, oh okay.

00:23:01.086 --> 00:23:04.474
Oh yeah, tom Petty, I don't think Ringo was in that.

00:23:04.474 --> 00:23:05.901
He might have played drums on it, I don't know.

00:23:06.301 --> 00:23:09.834
Okay, I thought he was in one of those combination bands.

00:23:09.974 --> 00:23:11.760
I actually kind of like some of the Wilburys' music.

00:23:11.760 --> 00:23:12.964
Yeah, I do too.

00:23:12.964 --> 00:23:14.942
There's another one, tom Petty.

00:23:14.942 --> 00:23:16.801
We love Tom Petty yeah.

00:23:23.234 --> 00:23:23.836
Not a great, not a great voice.

00:23:23.836 --> 00:23:24.878
His songs were phenomenal yeah, to me, and you too.

00:23:24.878 --> 00:23:32.076
We were talking about yeah, yeah, he, he not, not the, not a great singer, but uh boy, again it musically good songs.

00:23:32.076 --> 00:23:36.263
Yeah, put out, put out a lot of good songs good songs, man.

00:23:36.304 --> 00:23:37.766
Yeah, yeah.

00:23:37.766 --> 00:23:38.867
So he was good.

00:23:38.867 --> 00:23:41.058
We like he said, we said steve perry from journey.

00:23:41.560 --> 00:23:44.027
Steve Perry from Journey, definitely a great voice.

00:23:44.897 --> 00:23:45.840
Not a big Journey fan.

00:23:46.142 --> 00:23:46.321
Nope.

00:23:46.723 --> 00:23:47.184
It's okay.

00:23:47.184 --> 00:23:53.383
I mean it's for your high school chicks and all that kind of stuff, but Neil Sean could play yeah.

00:23:53.383 --> 00:24:02.349
You know, and I guess Jonathan Cain was the keyboard player.

00:24:02.349 --> 00:24:10.047
I guess he got together with Robert Palmer and they had that damn, what was that group that they freaking put together?

00:24:10.047 --> 00:24:11.798
God dang it.

00:24:11.798 --> 00:24:20.128
It's like slipping my mind right now I don't even have my phone to check it, but they had some cool songs.

00:24:21.314 --> 00:24:22.991
Yeah yeah okay, but they had some cool songs.

00:24:22.991 --> 00:24:24.955
Yeah, yeah, okay.

00:24:26.817 --> 00:24:28.420
I sure wish I could remember the name of that band.

00:24:28.420 --> 00:24:29.280
I can't believe I don't.

00:24:29.280 --> 00:24:30.501
It's just slipping my mind.

00:24:30.501 --> 00:24:31.123
It sucks.

00:24:32.104 --> 00:24:33.766
Yeah, I can't think either.

00:24:33.766 --> 00:24:34.886
I know who you're talking about.

00:24:34.886 --> 00:24:36.188
I can't remember.

00:24:36.209 --> 00:24:37.750
Power Station, that's what it's called.

00:24:37.750 --> 00:24:38.671
Yeah, power Station.

00:24:38.671 --> 00:24:43.098
Yeah, they were kind of a cool little.

00:24:43.098 --> 00:24:54.632
A lot of those bands kind of started forming together, you know like that in the 80s and stuff like that, from other bands like Damn Yankees, damn Yankees.

00:24:54.632 --> 00:24:55.856
I really liked that band.

00:24:56.038 --> 00:24:56.238
Yep.

00:24:56.519 --> 00:24:58.021
That's Tommy Sean's head Yep.

00:24:58.021 --> 00:25:00.246
And Jack Blades, and Jack Blades, yep.

00:25:00.246 --> 00:25:05.044
And then I liked, I really liked Asia, who was like yes, and some other.

00:25:05.934 --> 00:25:07.121
Yeah, who was in that?

00:25:10.717 --> 00:25:11.661
Good question, but I really.

00:25:11.661 --> 00:25:14.203
They only put out like I think, two albums, maybe three.

00:25:14.203 --> 00:25:16.078
But I loved Asia.

00:25:16.078 --> 00:25:17.664
A lot of people make fun of it.

00:25:17.664 --> 00:25:23.401
They make fun of it in the 40-year-old version because he had that Asia poster in the frame.

00:25:23.942 --> 00:25:25.006
Oh, no way yeah.

00:25:25.536 --> 00:25:27.563
But I like the band.

00:25:27.563 --> 00:25:30.502
Honestly, I played the crap out of that record.

00:25:30.502 --> 00:25:33.621
Yeah yeah, it was kind of cool.

00:25:36.694 --> 00:25:46.759
Another good one that we were talking about, and this may be more on me than any anybody, but I think that scott wyland had a good voice.

00:25:46.759 --> 00:25:50.407
I thought he did too I thought he he had a good range and he could.

00:25:50.407 --> 00:25:53.520
He could sing a lot of different types of music.

00:25:53.520 --> 00:25:59.882
Yeah, the bullhorn kind of threw people well, yeah, you know, but well it was just his stick, justick.

00:25:59.902 --> 00:26:00.482
That was just him.

00:26:00.784 --> 00:26:02.126
Yeah, he was a weirdo.

00:26:03.996 --> 00:26:12.189
Yeah, he was, yeah, and, like I was telling you, jeff Tate, I thought, and Brock was the best voice ever, I think, from Queensryche.

00:26:12.489 --> 00:26:12.690
Yeah.

00:26:15.255 --> 00:26:17.058
And I think his range is just incredible.

00:26:17.058 --> 00:26:24.036
Just even on Silent the City he was like listen to Silent the City, you can hear his full range, yeah yeah.

00:26:24.036 --> 00:26:26.021
Silent lucidity was like just listen to silent city, you can hear his full range, yeah yeah.

00:26:26.021 --> 00:26:27.528
And it's like, oh, you know who had?

00:26:27.528 --> 00:26:29.294
Okay, we didn't talk about him, but who had, who had a?

00:26:29.294 --> 00:26:40.085
Really he had a really good voice and really unique voice to me was paul rogers from bad company I, you know when you, when you said something about what's his name from the babies john wait john.

00:26:40.125 --> 00:26:42.877
Wait, that's, that's who I was going to say.

00:26:42.877 --> 00:26:44.723
At the same time, it's like, yeah, paul Rogers.

00:26:44.865 --> 00:26:45.045
Yeah.

00:26:45.775 --> 00:26:47.902
And he's another one who floated between groups.

00:26:47.902 --> 00:26:54.586
After bad company he was in some band with a bunch of other.

00:26:55.890 --> 00:26:58.323
Yeah, did they do a collab band or something?

00:26:58.323 --> 00:26:58.584
Yeah.

00:26:59.115 --> 00:27:08.817
I can't remember what it was Gosh lab band, or something.

00:27:08.836 --> 00:27:09.558
Yeah, I can't remember what it was.

00:27:09.558 --> 00:27:09.819
Gosh dang it.

00:27:09.819 --> 00:27:10.682
I can't either.

00:27:10.682 --> 00:27:11.064
This really sucks.

00:27:11.064 --> 00:27:12.208
You get over 60 and your freaking memory goes.

00:27:12.208 --> 00:27:21.737
Yeah, it's like it does suck, you know, because you know that I forgot what band he that he that he did, but but I really liked his voice and uh, well, actually you know talking about damn yankees.

00:27:21.737 --> 00:27:30.020
I went to the damn Yankees concert um Oklahoma and bad company opened up for him, but it was like the other non Paul Rogers.

00:27:30.382 --> 00:27:31.083
Paul Rogers.

00:27:31.083 --> 00:27:32.105
The guy could sing.

00:27:32.105 --> 00:27:33.949
He had a high range voice, but then that was.

00:27:33.949 --> 00:27:35.136
That was the eighties for you.

00:27:35.517 --> 00:27:35.738
Yeah.

00:27:36.278 --> 00:27:37.480
And then not you.

00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:38.221
Was it the 90s?

00:27:38.221 --> 00:27:39.143
No, it was the 80s.

00:27:39.143 --> 00:27:52.124
But yeah, he had that big range of voice and stuff like that, like all the hair bands and stuff had, because you had to sing high, like Sebastian Bach, who was a great voice.

00:27:52.505 --> 00:27:52.664
Yep.

00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:55.382
And stuff like that.

00:27:55.382 --> 00:28:00.805
So you really had to have a high range voice to even thrive in the 80s hair band scene.

00:28:00.845 --> 00:28:03.835
Yeah, like.

00:28:03.855 --> 00:28:05.839
I was saying, except for Bret Michaels, he didn't have to have a high voice.

00:28:09.048 --> 00:28:09.268
Okay.

00:28:10.336 --> 00:28:19.923
If you remember Poison's songs, they're not like one of those high Sebastian Bach type voice deals.

00:28:20.263 --> 00:28:26.272
Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, gosh, dang it.

00:28:26.272 --> 00:28:27.597
I was just thinking of somebody.

00:28:27.597 --> 00:28:31.586
Yeah, I can't remember.

00:28:31.586 --> 00:28:33.618
I'll, I'll remember in a second, I'm sure.

00:28:33.618 --> 00:28:40.196
Um, yeah, there, you know, it's almost as hard, you know what it is is.

00:28:40.196 --> 00:28:41.819
Sometimes you can't remember.

00:28:42.181 --> 00:28:44.925
Well, I threw a lot of great ones before we did shitty ones right there.

00:28:44.965 --> 00:28:46.669
Yeah yeah.

00:28:46.669 --> 00:29:00.230
Sometimes you kind of forget who really had good range and who didn't.

00:29:00.230 --> 00:29:00.570
Gosh dang.

00:29:00.570 --> 00:29:12.317
There's so many bands out there that you could talk about that, had you know singers that were either good or really not good yeah, because, like we're talking about paul stanley from kiss, he was kind of a mid guy.

00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:19.820
He wasn't great, he didn't suck, but he was, he was okay, he had, yeah, decent voice, right, you know.

00:29:19.840 --> 00:29:25.157
And stuff and getty lee, and you know, getty lee not a great voice, but uh like.

00:29:25.218 --> 00:29:31.269
Perfect for the music bands yeah, so yeah but yeah, I mean and and new stuff.

00:29:31.328 --> 00:29:37.023
I don't really, you know, I don't really, I can't really.

00:29:37.023 --> 00:29:47.319
None that comes to mind are the newer stuff, or at least not newer stuff, but I mean even in the 90s rock and that comes to mind, or the newer stuff that are at least not newer stuff, but I mean even in the nineties rock and stuff like that, and then the newer stuff.

00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:49.218
I really can't think of a whole lot.

00:29:49.218 --> 00:29:55.626
That blew my mind, cause I, you know I like food fighters, but you know girls voices Okay.

00:29:56.709 --> 00:29:57.810
Yeah, yeah.

00:29:57.810 --> 00:30:03.818
And like you were saying, you know, kurt Cobain was never going to win awards for vocal range.

00:30:03.818 --> 00:30:04.939
Not going to happen.

00:30:05.259 --> 00:30:30.153
I didn't think his voice was very good, but it was perfect for that, yeah, perfect for that deal that you know, the game changer of music, yeah, of what they did was pretty incredible because coming off of the hair bands and stuff like that, and they just said, fuck you, yeah, we're going grunge, we're going garage, we're going to do this stuff and come out with it and people ate it up.

00:30:31.356 --> 00:30:34.965
Yeah, Lane didn't have a great voice.

00:30:34.965 --> 00:30:41.344
He had a good voice and he had a decent range, but he didn't have a great voice, but it was perfect for the music.

00:30:41.344 --> 00:30:46.703
Yeah, axl rose was pretty good axl rose was pretty good, yeah, yeah they helped out.

00:30:46.743 --> 00:30:50.180
They helped usher out the hair bands as well they did.

00:30:50.180 --> 00:31:00.983
They were kind of that bridge between the two yeah, they just did you listen to a lot of hair bands, I think oh yeah of course, because that was rock then Right, that's all you got.

00:31:01.003 --> 00:31:01.785
That's all it was.

00:31:01.905 --> 00:31:05.631
It was all metal hair bands, metal hair bands, yeah Rat.

00:31:06.335 --> 00:31:09.801
Poison and freaking Cinderella Right Freaking.

00:31:10.363 --> 00:31:10.763
Y&T.

00:31:11.244 --> 00:31:11.865
Y&T.

00:31:12.627 --> 00:31:16.623
Wasp, and then you got crap like Europe.

00:31:17.856 --> 00:31:18.820
Yeah, I couldn't do that.

00:31:18.820 --> 00:31:19.503
That was terrible.

00:31:19.555 --> 00:31:20.237
Who was in Night?

00:31:20.277 --> 00:31:20.656
Ranger.

00:31:22.721 --> 00:31:22.982
And that.

00:31:23.022 --> 00:31:24.566
Jack Blades was in Night Ranger.

00:31:24.566 --> 00:31:30.119
Yeah yeah, they were pretty decent.

00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:30.840
They were too bad.

00:31:30.840 --> 00:31:32.041
I liked Night Ranger yeah.

00:31:32.863 --> 00:31:37.748
Yeah, but they were one of those you know 80s hair bands kind of.

00:31:37.748 --> 00:31:40.050
I guess they were kind of one of those.

00:31:40.050 --> 00:31:47.819
They were in Branson when we were there but we didn't get tickets to go see him.

00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:51.025
Yeah, you just wonder after, but they were like man a concert tickets suck yeah Nowadays.

00:31:51.226 --> 00:31:52.307
Yeah, they're way expensive.

00:31:52.548 --> 00:32:03.906
Yeah and uh, cause I had like this kind of a but it's kind of a festival-ish type thing and they had a lot of bands you had to pay a shitload of money and Night Ranger was in one of those.

00:32:04.788 --> 00:32:10.644
Yeah, you know my days of going to a concert that last more than two and a half hours.

00:32:10.644 --> 00:32:13.819
No, no, I couldn't do it.

00:32:13.819 --> 00:32:18.926
You know the idea of an all-weekend freaking music festival.

00:32:18.926 --> 00:32:22.262
Yeah, I can listen to music in my car.

00:32:27.154 --> 00:32:27.855
Yeah, I'd like to go see bands.

00:32:27.855 --> 00:32:35.027
I love live music, but I just there's nothing out there right now that I would pay to see.

00:32:35.027 --> 00:32:43.028
No, I mean, you could go see people at brit for not too bad of a price, right, um, but they have to be decent.

00:32:43.028 --> 00:32:43.776
I don't know who would.

00:32:43.816 --> 00:33:05.267
Who you would go see every time I look, you know, because brit publishes their lineup for the year like in the spring yeah and every time I look it's like I don't know any of these people yeah, and then I mean zz top was out there and and I know this is going to be sacrilegious to people, but I can't stand ZZ Top.

00:33:07.148 --> 00:33:07.930
Really I don't.

00:33:08.411 --> 00:33:09.092
No, I don't.

00:33:10.199 --> 00:33:11.202
No see, there's a good one.

00:33:11.202 --> 00:33:19.288
I think that Billy Gibbons' singing voice is less than stellar.

00:33:20.175 --> 00:33:22.678
Less than stellar, yeah, but yeah they.

00:33:22.678 --> 00:33:24.420
I never, really.

00:33:24.420 --> 00:33:27.512
There's nothing that really turned me on about freaking.

00:33:27.532 --> 00:33:27.714
ZZ Top.

00:33:27.714 --> 00:33:30.515
See, but I kind of like that.

00:33:30.634 --> 00:33:32.383
It's sacrilegious to a lot of people.

00:33:32.835 --> 00:33:36.123
I don't think it's sacrilegious, because if you don't like it, you don't like it.

00:33:36.884 --> 00:33:37.787
I don't like it.

00:33:38.915 --> 00:33:41.962
But again I like it.

00:33:41.962 --> 00:33:42.573
I again I like it.

00:33:42.573 --> 00:33:45.143
I thought they were a good band.

00:33:45.143 --> 00:33:47.521
They were a good three-piece band.

00:33:49.115 --> 00:33:50.481
I'll give them credit where credit's due.

00:33:50.481 --> 00:33:59.444
It's just that I didn't you know, I call them ZC Slop, that was my name for them when they came out.

00:33:59.444 --> 00:34:00.337
I mean, I didn't really.

00:34:00.337 --> 00:34:03.055
There wasn't anything that really did like.

00:34:03.055 --> 00:34:06.625
I was like man, that's a pretty great song.

00:34:06.625 --> 00:34:12.965
I mean, you're singing songs about TV dinners and shit like that.

00:34:12.965 --> 00:34:15.764
I was like you know no See, I didn't.

00:34:16.034 --> 00:34:19.626
You know, Eliminator kind of ruined them for me.

00:34:19.626 --> 00:34:21.561
I mean, I didn't really care for.

00:34:21.875 --> 00:34:22.981
That was a little too commercial.

00:34:23.235 --> 00:34:24.420
Yeah, a little bit too commercial.

00:34:24.420 --> 00:34:30.884
I like Deguaylo, that's a good album, but yeah, not really, not so much.

00:34:31.364 --> 00:34:31.985
Eagles man.

00:34:31.985 --> 00:34:32.788
I love the Eagles.

00:34:34.094 --> 00:34:36.041
Yeah, but I mean, look at all the talent they had.

00:34:36.081 --> 00:34:38.458
Oh my gosh, there's singers out galore out of that one I.

00:34:38.498 --> 00:34:39.599
There's singers out galore out of that one.

00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:42.266
I mean everybody could sing, Hanley could sing.

00:34:42.266 --> 00:34:45.702
Except for Joe Walsh yeah well yeah, okay.

00:34:46.135 --> 00:34:48.724
Joe Walsh's voice sucked, but you could tell it was Joe Walsh.

00:34:49.005 --> 00:34:55.025
Yeah, but I mean Glenn Frey could sing a storm up and Hanley could sing.

00:34:55.867 --> 00:34:56.487
Timothy B.

00:34:56.929 --> 00:34:57.148
Yeah.

00:34:57.414 --> 00:34:59.139
He could hit the high stuff, yeah.

00:34:59.139 --> 00:35:01.302
But yeah, that was a great band.

00:35:02.125 --> 00:35:03.628
Yeah, yeah, they were.

00:35:04.936 --> 00:35:06.661
We didn't talk about them earlier, but now we are.

00:35:06.782 --> 00:35:07.766
But yeah, yeah.

00:35:07.914 --> 00:35:10.083
Because I do, man.

00:35:10.083 --> 00:35:14.365
There's not much Eagles that I don't like.

00:35:16.476 --> 00:35:20.166
You know, I've heard it so much that I'm kind of tiring of it.

00:35:20.166 --> 00:35:21.840
Well, I mean it's been.

00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:22.465
You know 40 years of it.

00:35:22.465 --> 00:35:23.027
Well, I mean it's been.

00:35:23.027 --> 00:35:26.077
You know 40 years of it, 50 years of it being poured down your neck.

00:35:26.077 --> 00:35:28.461
It, yeah, gets old.00:35:28.461 --> 00:35:31.666


It's like stairway to heaven.00:35:31.666 --> 00:35:37.126


You just you've heard it so many times that it's like it turns into an earworm.00:35:37.407 --> 00:35:40.797


It's just the yeah yeah, I don't like it.00:35:40.797 --> 00:35:43.103


I didn't think that was a fantastic song anyway.00:35:43.623 --> 00:35:44.346


Stairway to Heaven.00:35:44.346 --> 00:35:45.007


It was okay.00:35:45.795 --> 00:35:48.182


It was not like oh God, stairway.00:35:48.605 --> 00:35:53.509


Yeah, same with freaking Freebird.00:35:53.811 --> 00:35:54.574


No, I like Freebird.00:35:55.858 --> 00:35:56.601


Yeah, I can't do it.00:35:57.297 --> 00:35:58.139


But I'm a Skinner fan.00:35:59.235 --> 00:36:04.143


I like Skinner, but that's one song that just freaking, it's just like.00:36:04.143 --> 00:36:07.585


It's just like a stairway to heaven.00:36:07.715 --> 00:36:11.579


I liked a lot of other stuff before free bird, but I did like free bird.00:36:11.579 --> 00:36:12.679


It's not like it wasn't.00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:13.762


I don't know, man.00:36:13.762 --> 00:36:15.039


I think we were talking about that.00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:15.855


I do like it, man.00:36:15.855 --> 00:36:28.847


That was almost a perfect song freebird yeah uh, maybe, maybe just for me I think we were talking about that with ron I think freebird may be a perfect song uh, it's perfect in some way for me.00:36:29.670 --> 00:36:34.641


I'd perfectly like to never hear it again I don't know I, I can't do it.00:36:34.641 --> 00:36:42.242


It's like really good, I mean I'm not saying it's a bad song, just like stairway to heaven, but I just I've heard it too many times.00:36:42.282 --> 00:36:47.610


I don't want to hear it yeah, well, I mean because you know you gotta, is there a perfect song for you?00:36:47.610 --> 00:36:51.739


Because we were talking about, like I said, we're talking about that, we'll do it live I don't know.00:36:51.778 --> 00:36:52.199


That's a.00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:56.027


That's a really good question, I because we talked about perfect album.00:36:56.936 --> 00:37:08.329


And then we talk about you know, perfect song, or did it vice versa, one of the one of the two you go back and listen to it's episode, one people, but um, perfect song.00:37:08.329 --> 00:37:19.804


And then we kind of agreed on freebird on that, because I think it is yeah whether you like, whether you've heard it a million times right not, it's just the the song it's very good, I'll give it to you.00:37:19.844 --> 00:37:23.782


It's very good, uh, I don't know if it's very good, I'll give it to you.00:37:23.782 --> 00:37:28.583


It's very good, uh, I don't know if it's perfect though it's clear.00:37:28.603 --> 00:37:36.525


It's pretty good as you can get it's pretty, it's yeah, it's probably close don't know, whatever, what's going to be a better perfect song than that?00:37:38.998 --> 00:37:42.244


gosh, I can't think of anything that's do.00:37:42.264 --> 00:37:43.867


Do you really want to hurt me by Culture Club?00:37:43.867 --> 00:37:44.550


Is that better?00:37:44.550 --> 00:37:52.054


That's pretty freaking close, and you know what the answer to that question is you don't go wrong with Boy George?00:37:52.235 --> 00:37:56.045


Yeah, you know what the answer to the question is yes, I do.00:37:56.045 --> 00:37:59.184


That's the answer to that question yes, I do.00:37:59.775 --> 00:38:02.503


Yeah, well, you know, got to give Boy his credit right now.00:38:02.603 --> 00:38:02.744


Yeah.00:38:03.514 --> 00:38:08.918


I had a girlfriend that loved that fucking group back in the day and I just couldn't stand it.00:38:10.784 --> 00:38:11.306


You know what?00:38:11.306 --> 00:38:14.666


I don't really like pop music, but freaking Wham was good.00:38:15.675 --> 00:38:17.101


You know I got to agree with that.00:38:18.677 --> 00:38:23.186


There's somebody who had a freaking great voice George Michael.00:38:23.206 --> 00:38:26.123


George Michael, george Michael, yeah, dude could sing.00:38:26.355 --> 00:38:28.201


He could sing anything.00:38:28.643 --> 00:38:34.961


Yeah, you know, they had some yeah, they had a run, yeah, and they had some pretty good songs.00:38:36.315 --> 00:38:38.300


And I don't like pop dance music.00:38:38.380 --> 00:38:40.443


But they were good.00:38:40.443 --> 00:38:42.849


They were good, you know yeah.00:38:43.456 --> 00:38:44.822


And that was his talent man.00:38:44.914 --> 00:38:49.143


He was freaking, phenomenally talented One of the big wake me up for you, go, go song.00:38:49.143 --> 00:38:53.465


I know but there was other stuff that that careless whisper was a fantastic song.00:38:54.335 --> 00:38:55.561


That's probably in that genre.00:38:55.561 --> 00:38:59.586


That's probably as close to a perfect song as there's ever going to be.00:38:59.726 --> 00:39:00.936


Yeah, that was a great.00:39:08.173 --> 00:39:08.976


It was about the band.00:39:08.976 --> 00:39:20.262


I saw a documentary on the band and there was like a bunch of different iterations of that song and George Michael didn't like any of them until he got to that one.00:39:20.262 --> 00:39:23.719


They went through a bunch of different I don't know a bunch.00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:27.576


They went through more than one recording studio and more than one producer.00:39:28.177 --> 00:39:28.378


Yeah.00:39:29.070 --> 00:39:36.092


And the cut that everybody knows was not the first one yeah I mean he wanted it perfect.00:39:36.231 --> 00:39:36.793


Well it was.00:39:36.793 --> 00:39:46.530


It was close to it yeah not free bird, but right there okay, this uh, okay, here's okay, real quick, go ahead.00:39:46.530 --> 00:39:47.612


Well, I was, I was gonna say, uh, you don't like?00:39:47.672 --> 00:39:48.052


beach music, right?00:39:48.052 --> 00:39:51.036


Well, I was going to say you don't like beach music, right?00:39:51.036 --> 00:39:53.257


You're not a Beach Boys, or?00:39:53.318 --> 00:39:54.179


Oh hell, no, I think.00:39:54.179 --> 00:39:56.181


Oh God, that shit drove me nuts.00:39:56.501 --> 00:39:56.800


Really.00:39:57.282 --> 00:40:00.043


Yeah, you know, I think Dave.00:40:00.043 --> 00:40:02.686


Okay, you know what I think about David Lee Ross voice.00:40:10.061 --> 00:40:12.407


And I think his version of California Girls was better than the Beach.00:40:12.427 --> 00:40:12.588


Boys.00:40:12.588 --> 00:40:15.572


You know what I think I have to agree with that.00:40:15.572 --> 00:40:17.159


So you know what I think I I have to agree with that, so you know there's where.00:40:17.179 --> 00:40:18.284


There's where I stand, there's where I stand on that guy.00:40:18.284 --> 00:40:21.454


I see now I like it because there's a lot of harmonies involved and and freaking.00:40:21.454 --> 00:40:25.163


Brian wilson was a genius in that I love harmonies too and I do.00:40:25.362 --> 00:40:26.351


I think that's great.00:40:26.351 --> 00:40:29.898


I think crosby stills and dash's on't legendary Right.00:40:29.898 --> 00:40:36.298


But I just couldn't do Beach Boys, man, I just can't do the fucking Beach Boys.00:40:36.298 --> 00:40:38.237


It just irritated the living shit out of me.00:40:38.429 --> 00:40:40.778


Now that's funny, because I like that, I like that music.00:40:41.150 --> 00:40:42.637


That kind of cracks me up a little bit.00:40:42.637 --> 00:40:44.536


I would not have thought that at all.00:40:44.536 --> 00:40:50.762


I wouldn't think that, hey, Ricker, you're a Beach Boys man by trade.00:40:54.550 --> 00:40:56.777


Well, monday morning when I go to work, you better freaking.00:40:56.777 --> 00:40:58.697


Have it tuned up and ready to go on.00:40:59.297 --> 00:41:00.170


Yeah, yeah, absolutely.00:41:00.170 --> 00:41:08.179


You know I, you know one of the 80's bands you were talking about.00:41:08.179 --> 00:41:15.679


It was kind of whammish but tears for fears.00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:18.411


I, I thought a lot of their.00:41:18.411 --> 00:41:21.780


I thought a lot of their songs are pretty good, except for that shout song.00:41:21.780 --> 00:41:28.416


I hated it yeah because I mean, we always sing it like shout, shout, let it all out.00:41:28.416 --> 00:41:36.385


Yeah, this is a song we can do without Right and shit like that, because the song blew ass.00:41:39.909 --> 00:41:41.193


Everybody wants to rule the world is a great song to me.00:41:41.193 --> 00:41:42.255


Pretty good, it's fair.00:41:42.556 --> 00:41:42.775


Yeah.00:41:43.016 --> 00:41:43.217


Yeah.00:41:43.617 --> 00:41:49.170


And they had some decent stuff and I wasn't really a big fan of theirs but I thought that they had some good stuff.00:41:49.231 --> 00:41:51.434


No, it's like Wham or freaking Duran Duran.00:41:51.474 --> 00:41:54.117


There's songs in there you like, damn dude.00:41:54.117 --> 00:41:57.019


I'm glad you brought up Duran Duran because I liked them.00:41:57.239 --> 00:42:00.204


I think that their music was, you know, well done.00:42:00.224 --> 00:42:01.045


Progressively worse.00:42:01.045 --> 00:42:09.182


Right, okay, but I did like Duran Duran, you know, especially some of the early stuff.00:42:09.182 --> 00:42:13.556


But then again I liked early Nickelback and the rest of their shit sucked after that too.00:42:13.556 --> 00:42:22.353


Um, the early stuff was good, it was it was and then all of a sudden, they went to hell.00:42:24.099 --> 00:42:31.500


You know, there's a lot of bands like that, like their first, you know bon jovi, okay, bon jovi, okay, let me.00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:33.226


Let me get this out real quick while I'm thinking about it.00:42:33.226 --> 00:42:38.445


Like their first, you know, bon Jovi, okay, bon Jovi, okay, let me get this out real quick while I'm thinking about it.00:42:38.445 --> 00:42:41.835


Their first two records, you know, their self-titled one and then 7800 degree Fahrenheit.00:42:41.835 --> 00:42:45.376


I thought it was even better than Slippery when Wet, that's what they're big known for.00:42:45.376 --> 00:42:51.833


But after, okay, I'll even give Slippery when Wet props just because it was a good record, right.00:42:51.833 --> 00:42:56.355


But after, okay, I'll even give Slippery when wet props just because it was a good record, Right.00:42:56.355 --> 00:42:56.994


But after that it blew ass.00:42:56.994 --> 00:43:05.380


Yeah, he went Ballad City, kind of like Dennis DeYoung did to Styx, right After he did that Babe song.00:43:05.380 --> 00:43:09.782


All he wanted to do was fucking ballads and then, REO Speedwagon, which I liked Right.00:43:10.402 --> 00:43:12.222


And then Kevin Cronin same deal.00:43:12.222 --> 00:43:19.186


Yeah, he was like I worked years and years and years on this song and then he started playing it and I was like, oh no, not that.00:43:19.626 --> 00:43:20.947


You wasted your time, dude.00:43:20.947 --> 00:43:25.554


Go back to writing, try again.00:43:25.574 --> 00:43:26.317


And that was well.00:43:26.317 --> 00:43:27.298


I can't fight this feeling.00:43:27.298 --> 00:43:27.981


That's what it was.00:43:28.240 --> 00:43:28.722


There you go.00:43:29.871 --> 00:43:34.021


Yeah, and I'm like, oh shit man, you guys had way better shit than that.00:43:34.021 --> 00:43:43.215


You worked years on that, right, you know I got to say that you wasted a lot of time like you said, yeah, but REO, I liked them.00:43:43.215 --> 00:43:45.958


I liked them before High Infidelity.00:43:46.809 --> 00:43:47.875


Yeah, they were okay.00:43:47.875 --> 00:43:50.277


They weren't one of my favorite bands, but they were okay.00:43:53.510 --> 00:43:53.976


Yeah, good stuff.00:43:53.996 --> 00:43:55.130


And Gary Richrath could play guitar pretty good yeah.00:43:55.130 --> 00:44:06.342


You know, yeah, but bands that were progressively sucked yeah there's a lot of them.00:44:06.682 --> 00:44:11.519


Yeah, there's a lot of them, poor Guns N' Roses they put out such a great first album?00:44:11.541 --> 00:44:11.983


Yeah, how do you?00:44:11.983 --> 00:44:15.217


Repeat that you know, and roses they.00:44:15.237 --> 00:44:17.949


you know they put out such a great first album yeah, how do you, how do you repeat that you know um?00:44:25.969 --> 00:44:27.061


like I said, nickelback, but there's probably others.00:44:27.061 --> 00:44:31.757


Yeah, there's got to be others, because I um anybody out there?00:44:31.757 --> 00:44:35.844


I think, I think you know you probably get into some of the grunge bands.00:44:38.289 --> 00:44:38.371


And.00:44:39.152 --> 00:44:50.119


I think that's where you see a lot of drop off, and part of it is Cobain died so they couldn't go any further, but their first album was great.00:44:52.130 --> 00:44:55.472


You just brought up a couple of guys that I think that you know, just because of the grunge shit.00:44:55.472 --> 00:45:00.159


Oh God, sound Gardens.00:45:01.501 --> 00:45:04.025


Oh yeah, Gosh dang it.00:45:06.490 --> 00:45:07.333


This is pissing me off.00:45:07.572 --> 00:45:10.701


I know Chris Cornell Cornell yeah.00:45:10.780 --> 00:45:13.534


Chris Cornell, huge, great voice.00:45:13.875 --> 00:45:14.094


Yeah.00:45:15.378 --> 00:45:16.221


Chester Bennington.00:45:16.221 --> 00:45:17.733


There's another one.00:45:17.733 --> 00:45:19.983


Yes, fucking great voice, yeah.00:45:20.411 --> 00:45:25.030


Linkin Park was yeah, they were excellent, yeah, good stuff.00:45:25.030 --> 00:45:29.501


But again their music kind of tapered off there.00:45:29.501 --> 00:45:30.833


It wasn't as well.00:45:30.833 --> 00:45:35.143


I guess they didn't have as big a fall off as some other bands.00:45:35.143 --> 00:45:38.119


They were pretty decent, they had good songs.00:45:39.791 --> 00:45:40.994


No, they didn't fall off.00:45:41.496 --> 00:45:41.797


Yeah.00:45:43.231 --> 00:45:46.177


I was just like I was singing to two great singers.00:45:46.378 --> 00:45:46.518


Yeah.00:45:47.532 --> 00:45:48.978


I want to give them their props real quick.00:45:49.469 --> 00:45:50.893


Yeah, I think that's right.00:45:50.893 --> 00:45:52.416


Yeah yeah, chester was right.00:45:52.416 --> 00:45:53.818


Yeah yeah, chester Chester was.00:45:53.818 --> 00:45:55.422


He was a good singer.00:45:55.521 --> 00:45:58.034


Good Great, you said Duke and belt.00:45:58.034 --> 00:46:00.353


Both of them killed themselves.00:46:00.353 --> 00:46:02.539


Thanks a lot, guys.00:46:02.539 --> 00:46:03.802


Yeah, yeah.00:46:04.230 --> 00:46:05.976


Chris Cornell had nothing to live for.00:46:05.976 --> 00:46:09.998


Really, there's planes that leave out of Detroit.00:46:19.969 --> 00:46:21.775


You don't have to get that depressed because you're there, just get on a plane, fuckhead.00:46:21.775 --> 00:46:22.538


Yeah, it's like it's got, it's just got.00:46:22.557 --> 00:46:23.179


Crazy man and I've written the.00:46:23.179 --> 00:46:24.063


Chester bennington really shocked me, I do.00:46:24.063 --> 00:46:27.411


You know there's a lot of conspiracy theories about him, a lot.00:46:27.411 --> 00:46:51.978


I don't know if I buy any of them, but there's a lot of them you got any off in somebody told me that he was about to blow the lid off of hollywood and child uh, child diddling really yeah, that something happened him when he was a kid what the hell?00:46:51.978 --> 00:46:56.822


Yeah, and somebody wanted him to freaking shut up about it.00:46:56.822 --> 00:46:58.423


But I don't again.00:46:58.423 --> 00:47:00.706


That's just rumor.00:47:00.706 --> 00:47:01.606


I have no idea.00:47:04.489 --> 00:47:05.481


That cannot be verified, people, so don't get on record.00:47:05.403 --> 00:47:06.811


Yeah, yeah.00:47:06.811 --> 00:47:19.101


And you know that's like with Cobain, you know, having an interview the day before he shoots himself and everybody thinking he sounded perfectly fine.00:47:19.101 --> 00:47:20.244


What the hell's the deal?00:47:20.244 --> 00:47:23.237


Yeah, or the day of I don't even know.00:47:23.237 --> 00:47:24.139


It was really close.00:47:24.139 --> 00:47:27.840


He did like a long form interview with somebody.00:47:28.750 --> 00:47:30.115


Cobain didn't surprise me.00:47:30.757 --> 00:47:31.893


No, and you know.00:47:32.777 --> 00:47:33.721


Chris Cornell Chester Bennington.00:47:33.721 --> 00:47:34.101


Yeah't surprise me.00:47:34.101 --> 00:47:34.905


No, and you know, chris Cornell Chester.00:47:34.925 --> 00:47:35.809


Bennington, they surprised me.00:47:35.809 --> 00:47:47.751


Yeah, yeah, definitely, cornell was a shock, but then you see, like his, somebody did a you know, took a video of him.00:47:47.751 --> 00:47:54.992


I think he was at the Fox Theater in Detroit, detroit, in Detroit.00:47:54.992 --> 00:47:57.556


Yeah, he looked like ass and he sounded like hell.00:47:57.556 --> 00:48:02.152


Yeah, yeah, that was like within the day or two days before.00:48:02.152 --> 00:48:04.393


Yeah, he looked like crap.00:48:04.393 --> 00:48:06.976


So that sucks.00:48:06.976 --> 00:48:11.380


Yeah it, man, because a dude had unbelievable talent.00:48:11.380 --> 00:48:16.387


Yeah, I mean Soundgarden was a freaking grade A band.00:48:16.387 --> 00:48:17.635


They really were.00:48:17.929 --> 00:48:20.878


And then, what was the other band he was in?00:48:22.931 --> 00:48:23.474


Oh shit.00:48:23.474 --> 00:48:28.936


We're killing ourselves here With a memory loss.00:48:28.936 --> 00:48:30.101


It's freaking ridiculous.00:48:31.931 --> 00:48:37.422


It's going to come to us, but oh shit, maybe not.00:48:37.422 --> 00:48:40.255


You got to Google that man?00:48:40.255 --> 00:48:41.539


Yeah, Chris Cornell man.00:48:41.539 --> 00:48:42.802


Yeah, I will, Because that's pissing me off.00:48:42.849 --> 00:48:43.976


Yeah, this is too much.00:48:43.976 --> 00:48:45.697


We got the Google machines right here.00:48:45.889 --> 00:48:47.315


Everybody out there.00:48:47.315 --> 00:48:51.900


Almost Famous Radio Podcast at gmailcom.00:48:51.900 --> 00:48:58.210


I would love for you guys to give us some bands.00:48:58.210 --> 00:49:01.697


That's progressively got worse.00:49:01.697 --> 00:49:05.909


Also great rock singers.00:49:07.282 --> 00:49:07.929


Audio Slave.00:49:08.150 --> 00:49:09.014


Audio Slave, that's it.00:49:09.793 --> 00:49:14.304


He was in another band too, and they had one song that I can remember Audio Slave, audio Slave, that's it.00:49:14.324 --> 00:49:20.936


Yeah, he was in another band too, and they had one song that I can remember, gosh dang it, you know Corey Taylor.00:49:20.936 --> 00:49:35.454


He sang for Stone Sour and then he also sang for that one group that went I can't remember the name of it, right, but it was crazy how they did all that music and shit.00:49:35.454 --> 00:49:43.780


Like then he's saying for stone sour, like duke can fucking sing right temple of the dog, temple of the dog that was the other band that he was.00:49:43.820 --> 00:49:51.925


Yeah, yeah, that was a good band, but it's funny some of those, you know that whole grunge scene, a lot of those bands.00:49:51.925 --> 00:50:09.853


There were people going in and out of them, especially in like in the real early 90s yeah so there you know there were associations between all these people that came out of seattle in the grunge movement that they're all they you know they were in each other's bands and shit in the early days it's too bad.00:50:09.934 --> 00:50:12.740


Nobody clotheslined Eddie Vedder and screwed his vocal.00:50:12.740 --> 00:50:13.742


No kidding man?00:50:13.742 --> 00:50:17.179


Well, I guess they might have, because who knows what the fuck he's singing about.00:50:17.179 --> 00:50:25.532


I don't understand any of the shit that he sings, I mean lyrically.00:50:25.532 --> 00:50:29.880


If I'm listening to it I'm like what the hell did he just say?00:50:30.340 --> 00:50:30.621


Yeah or sing.00:50:31.442 --> 00:50:32.864


Whatever, don't care yeah or sing Whatever.00:50:33.184 --> 00:50:33.666


Don't care.00:50:34.186 --> 00:50:34.427


Yeah.00:50:36.068 --> 00:50:36.369


Don't care.00:50:36.690 --> 00:50:38.414


They had a couple of songs that were decent.00:50:38.414 --> 00:50:39.096


They did.00:50:39.096 --> 00:50:41.802


Don't get me wrong.00:50:41.802 --> 00:50:52.043


I'm not going to say every freaking Pearl Jam song sucked, but I just didn't know what the fuck he was singing.00:50:52.043 --> 00:50:53.867


I don't know what the fuck he was singing.00:50:53.867 --> 00:50:59.041


I don't know how could they put the lyrics on an album jacket when they don't even know what the fuck he was singing about.00:51:01.070 --> 00:51:03.978


Does it even actually tie to what he was singing anyways?00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:10.070


Yeah, I don't know, there's somebody else like that oh freaking.00:51:10.090 --> 00:51:18.237


There's somebody else like oh freaking, oh shit, the lead singer from Motley Crue, vince Neil.00:51:18.237 --> 00:51:20.378


Vince, neil, yeah, I cannot.00:51:20.378 --> 00:51:23.780


You know the last 10 years that he was singing.00:51:23.780 --> 00:51:27.101


It's like are you even fucking speaking English?00:51:27.101 --> 00:51:27.382


Well?00:51:27.443 --> 00:51:30.565


that's the time you can really know anything, because they were sober on that.00:51:30.565 --> 00:51:35.467


Dr Feelgood was a totally sober album and that was a freaking masterpiece.00:51:38.673 --> 00:51:40.878


That was I like Motley, don't get me wrong, I do too.00:51:40.878 --> 00:51:42.202


I like Motley, I do too.00:51:44.411 --> 00:51:47.880


They fucked up a lot of people man on the strip back in the day before they got back.00:51:49.391 --> 00:51:50.114


They were freaking.00:51:50.114 --> 00:51:51.715


Yeah, they were animals.00:51:51.715 --> 00:51:54.751


Yeah, no doubt about it but they're cool, man.00:51:54.791 --> 00:51:58.398


Man I mean, um, shit man.00:51:58.398 --> 00:52:10.465


I was watching documentary on it on nicky six and and how he, you know he woke up with a freaking needle still in his arm and shit like that.00:52:10.465 --> 00:52:12.869


He was clinically dead for one, you know, and stuff like that.00:52:12.909 --> 00:52:27.043


He still went out and got heroin and then he maybe just got clean, yeah yeah, it's crazy that whole freaking that, that whole biography that he he wrote and then like didn't he put the six cents?00:52:27.110 --> 00:52:29.559


is that what the band that he put together afterwards?00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:29.739


Uh?00:52:29.739 --> 00:52:38.065


It was pretty good, yeah, had life is beautiful on it, okay, yeah, yeah, that's, that was.00:52:38.065 --> 00:52:38.867


That was pretty.00:52:38.947 --> 00:52:48.434


You know pretty good short-lived there's, there's a bunch of them, there's a bunch of those kind of bands, yeah, and then it's just short-lived.00:52:48.434 --> 00:52:52.637


It's like uh, I'm in between, you're in between, let's, and then it's just short-lived.00:52:52.657 --> 00:52:55.199


It's like I'm in between, you're in between.00:52:55.199 --> 00:52:55.740


Let's make an album.00:52:55.740 --> 00:52:56.181


Let's do it.00:52:56.181 --> 00:52:58.503


Yeah, because it always pisses off other band members.00:52:58.503 --> 00:53:01.967


Right, you're not involved in it and all this kind of shit.00:53:02.510 --> 00:53:02.650


Oh yeah.00:53:02.670 --> 00:53:04.556


You're over there raising a kid or something.00:53:04.876 --> 00:53:05.960


Right yeah.00:53:07.590 --> 00:53:09.157


I'm going to go play music.00:53:09.597 --> 00:53:12.056


Right, yeah, I guess that's how it was.00:53:12.096 --> 00:53:12.458


I don't know.00:53:12.458 --> 00:53:14.195


I've never been a rock singer.00:53:14.195 --> 00:53:16.914


We're in a band, for that matter.00:53:17.958 --> 00:53:19.891


Yeah, yeah.00:53:19.891 --> 00:53:23.362


I think Motley had so many good songs.00:53:24.431 --> 00:53:32.476


From the jump, yeah, from their very first record and then they even to the last one.00:53:32.476 --> 00:53:38.668


I mean that I remember was they even had that Saints of Los Angeles song and they sounded so good, yeah.00:53:38.690 --> 00:53:38.829


I mean.00:53:39.733 --> 00:53:42.300


I just I thought they were just a fantastic band.00:53:43.590 --> 00:53:44.856


What do you think about Metallica?00:53:46.152 --> 00:53:56.554


I think that they're one of the most overrated bands ever See now I like them, but I didn't say I didn't like them yeah I liked a lot, okay, okay they.00:53:56.996 --> 00:54:07.922


They were great way back and then they progressively got corporate yeah, everybody says the black album is where it went, freaking sideways for and it was a good one.00:54:08.150 --> 00:54:15.081


It was a very good one, you know, and all of a sudden everything started sounding exactly alike.00:54:17.005 --> 00:54:20.056


Yeah, yeah, kind of did.00:54:20.811 --> 00:54:22.777


Yeah, every song sounded just alike to me.00:54:22.777 --> 00:54:27.733


Yeah, and plus they pissed me off back in the Napster days because, I had.00:54:27.733 --> 00:54:30.101


Napster, when it was free, and then Lars over.00:54:30.250 --> 00:54:32.195


Yeah, I had to go bitch about it.00:54:32.295 --> 00:54:35.523


They bitched about that shit about free music.00:54:35.523 --> 00:54:45.539


Okay, we were downloading free music and shit like that, and then they got the government involved A fucking band like Metallica getting government involved.00:54:45.539 --> 00:54:49.336


Right, you sons of bitches, yeah, and then now look everything's free on YouTube.00:54:49.336 --> 00:54:53.239


I know, you can listen to any damn song you want.00:54:53.239 --> 00:55:03.302


So take that Lars Ulrich right up, your fucking Swedish or whatever, your ass, whatever German or whatever it is, eat it Dane.00:55:03.610 --> 00:55:04.554


He's a Dane, I think.00:55:04.650 --> 00:55:05.494


Okay, hell with it.00:55:05.795 --> 00:55:05.976


Yeah.00:55:06.710 --> 00:55:07.452


Danish ass.00:55:07.452 --> 00:55:10.173


Whatever Right, She'll shove it up there.00:55:10.454 --> 00:55:10.715


Right.00:55:10.737 --> 00:55:12.141


That's what will work.00:55:12.141 --> 00:55:15.375


If you want to come over here and talk about it, we will.00:55:15.375 --> 00:55:31.960


I'm not scared of you I you know what, although you're one of the best drummers ever with the feet yeah but still fuck you, okay, yeah he's yeah, they've had some great songs they have uh but that's a good question.00:55:31.960 --> 00:55:35.378


Metallica, Because there's a lot of ride or dies with that band.00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:36.481


Yeah.00:55:37.911 --> 00:55:39.317


There's a lot of Metallica.00:55:39.317 --> 00:55:40.952


They think they're the greatest band ever.00:55:40.952 --> 00:55:43.597


I like them and they're good.00:55:44.780 --> 00:55:45.019


Yeah.00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:45.541


They're good.00:55:45.942 --> 00:55:47.485


Yeah, that's it, they're good.00:55:48.469 --> 00:56:00.079


And yeah, I don't think they're one of the best good, and yeah, I don't think they're like one of the best, although and you know what's weird is they got primo people at each right.00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:02.224


Each member that does.00:56:02.224 --> 00:56:06.474


Um, jason newstead was a great bassist, right kurt hammett.00:56:06.474 --> 00:56:15.396


Yeah, yeah, absolutely and and then, uh, um james hatfieldfield he could play the guitar, not a great singer.00:56:15.396 --> 00:56:19.195


But his voice is perfect for what they did.00:56:19.932 --> 00:56:21.458


His voice is great for the music.00:56:21.769 --> 00:56:23.436


And then Lars Eat Shit.00:56:23.436 --> 00:56:23.958


Ulrich.00:56:23.958 --> 00:56:31.298


Right, he probably has the fastest feet in drumming history, even though Neil Peart's a better drummer than anybody else.00:56:31.298 --> 00:56:35.954


I'm going to hand it to Neil Peart, not just because they're my favorite band.00:56:35.994 --> 00:56:43.039


If anyone's challenged me, I'm going to go ahead, you got to put him up there at the top you have to.00:56:45.251 --> 00:56:45.592


My kid.00:56:45.592 --> 00:56:48.416


I remember my kid when he was younger.00:56:48.416 --> 00:56:51.092


He wanted to play drums.00:56:51.092 --> 00:56:53.653


I said you know what?00:56:53.653 --> 00:56:57.496


Okay, if you want to play drums, I want to show you who you want to emulate.00:56:57.496 --> 00:57:04.804


And I showed him Neil Peart, and until the day he passed he was like that was his drummer it was Neil Peart.00:57:05.563 --> 00:57:13.115


He couldn't he wasn't Neil Peart, by all means Nobody is.00:57:13.115 --> 00:57:17.804


But I mean I said, if you want to learn and you really want to try to emulate somebody, do that.00:57:17.804 --> 00:57:29.041


I mean you're not going to match him Right, but even if you have a little bit of success trying to emulate Neil Peart, you're going to be able to play drums.00:57:29.481 --> 00:57:29.702


Right.00:57:30.463 --> 00:57:31.123


And you'll be fine.00:57:31.585 --> 00:57:31.764


Yeah.00:57:32.570 --> 00:57:33.653


And you'll be better than Ringo.00:57:33.653 --> 00:57:37.436


Yeah, who wasn't an outstanding drummer.00:57:37.856 --> 00:57:37.958


No.00:57:38.610 --> 00:57:39.552


Who was good drummers?00:57:43.501 --> 00:57:47.710


Bonham, good one, bonham, oh, keith Moon.00:57:48.451 --> 00:57:49.373


Yeah, Keith Moon.00:57:52.938 --> 00:57:53.681


Gosh dang it.00:57:55.262 --> 00:57:57.996


Well, lars, lars, you got to put Lars there.00:57:58.490 --> 00:57:59.532


We'll give him that credit.00:57:59.873 --> 00:58:00.476


Piece of shit.00:58:00.476 --> 00:58:01.739


Yeah, yeah, go ahead.00:58:01.739 --> 00:58:07.940


Yeah, we got Lars, but drummer-wise, yeah, like I said, perk.00:58:08.697 --> 00:58:09.869


Tommy Lee is pretty good.00:58:09.869 --> 00:58:10.702


Tommy Lee is a really good drummer.00:58:10.644 --> 00:58:11.190


He's pretty good.00:58:11.190 --> 00:58:11.460


Got to see him live.00:58:11.460 --> 00:58:11.911


Tommy Lee is pretty good, Tommy.00:58:11.853 --> 00:58:12.143


Lee is a really good drummer.00:58:12.143 --> 00:58:12.349


He's pretty good.00:58:12.349 --> 00:58:14.036


I see him live and that dude can drum.00:58:14.036 --> 00:58:14.831


He was, he was.00:58:14.831 --> 00:58:16.619


It's pretty fun to watch him drum.00:58:17.510 --> 00:58:22.101


He was bad-ass for a marching band guy for a marching band guy.00:58:22.101 --> 00:58:22.523


Yeah.00:58:23.550 --> 00:58:24.275


The dude could play.00:58:24.275 --> 00:58:25.795


He can, he can.00:58:25.795 --> 00:58:33.902


So yeah, I mean there's really not too many other outstanding drummers, not that you know not that I'm sure there are.00:58:33.902 --> 00:58:41.940


There has to be, I'm sure somebody might chime in on it one of these days and say, hey, you forgot this guy idiot.00:58:41.940 --> 00:58:47.958


But you know, I just can't think of any right now, grohl.00:58:47.958 --> 00:59:02.123


Eh, he's okay, he's okay, he was a pounder, he was just a beater he just beat the shit out of his room uh, yeah, but smells like teen spirit he was on it that that's a freaking.00:59:02.184 --> 00:59:04.992


That's such a good drum riff such a good drum riff.00:59:04.992 --> 00:59:05.733


Yeah, it really is.00:59:05.733 --> 00:59:09.315


Um gosh dang.00:59:09.315 --> 00:59:22.610


I'm trying to think, uh, we were just talking about a band who had a a great drummer and I I can't, oh, sound garden.00:59:22.610 --> 00:59:29.753


I'm trying to think of their, their drummers, excellent pretty good huh yeah, I never even thought about the drummer on that.00:59:29.753 --> 00:59:31.617


Yeah, cameron.00:59:33.240 --> 00:59:33.561


What the?00:59:33.621 --> 00:59:33.782


hell.00:59:33.782 --> 00:59:36.695


Yeah, I've got it right here.00:59:36.695 --> 00:59:38.818


I've got my Google machine tuned up.00:59:38.818 --> 00:59:40.653


Get that Google machine going.00:59:40.653 --> 00:59:42.800


Yeah, because we need it.00:59:42.800 --> 00:59:43.742


Yeah, we do.00:59:43.742 --> 00:59:45.436


Come on Soundgarden.00:59:45.829 --> 00:59:49.438


I don't even know any of Soundgarden's freaking band members' names besides Cornell.00:59:50.661 --> 00:59:52.715


Kim Thiel, it was a guitarist.00:59:52.715 --> 00:59:54.876


Okay, the other, you know the lead guitarist.00:59:58.271 --> 01:00:02.920


And I'm ashamed of myself for not knowing that, but you know.01:00:04.362 --> 01:00:04.902


There you have it.01:00:04.902 --> 01:00:06.666


Yeah, matt Cameron.01:00:06.666 --> 01:00:11.760


Drummer Was a drummer and I think he's pretty damn good.01:00:11.760 --> 01:00:16.057


Drummer was a drummer and I think he's he's pretty damn good.01:00:16.057 --> 01:00:18.302


Yeah, there's, you know there.01:00:18.302 --> 01:00:31.619


All right, drumming is, I'm sure, is so freaking hard that to do it in front of people to be a drummer yeah it's probably the most underrated member of a band, absolutely.01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:32.802


Because it's hard.01:00:32.802 --> 01:00:35.536


I mean it's not easy to do.01:00:35.536 --> 01:00:38.760


You've got to have your feet and your hands working at different levels.01:00:38.760 --> 01:00:42.920


I mean, I even try to do a drum set and stuff like that.01:00:42.920 --> 01:00:44.360


I can do one at a time.01:00:44.360 --> 01:00:57.019


Right, I can beat the shit out of some couch cushions with my hands, but not using my feet at the same time, no, and so drummer is probably the most underrated member of any band.01:00:57.380 --> 01:00:58.141


I think so too.01:00:58.389 --> 01:01:02.018


No matter how good or bad or not, and I shouldn't say bad, you're good.01:01:02.018 --> 01:01:04.903


If you're in a band, you're good, or like you know.01:01:04.903 --> 01:01:10.313


So if you're okay or whatever, well, just add singing to it.01:01:10.313 --> 01:01:13.916


Yeah, that's the one that kills me.01:01:15.934 --> 01:01:24.324


Not that I really like some of the singers that were drummers, but Phil Collins.01:01:24.831 --> 01:01:27.056


Yeah, phil Collins, for sure, or Henley Henley.01:01:27.157 --> 01:01:28.621


Yeah, henley too.01:01:30.612 --> 01:01:31.516


Dude from Night Ranger.01:01:31.730 --> 01:01:32.251


So he sang lead on some.01:01:32.251 --> 01:01:32.693


He's a drummer too.01:01:32.693 --> 01:01:33.697


Yeah, yeah, henley too, dude from Night Ranger.01:01:33.697 --> 01:01:35.043


Yeah, so he sang lead on some of his drummer too yeah.01:01:35.043 --> 01:01:40.516


So, Not a whole lot of them, though Lead singer, drummer combinations.01:01:40.998 --> 01:01:44.456


Yeah, at least sing on stuff like that, yeah, yeah.01:01:46.541 --> 01:01:48.411


I don't know that's a.01:01:48.411 --> 01:01:50.737


You know this is a subject that's really you.01:01:50.737 --> 01:01:56.838


It's kind of computer intensive because you, you can't remember all these people, you just can't get it going.01:01:57.420 --> 01:02:09.896


So here's the great thing about it is is that we hadn't even scratched the surface on half the shit that we wanted to talk about on here, so we're gonna have to do another one yeah, and then we'll just do it.01:02:10.036 --> 01:02:18.686


I think, when you do something like this, I think three or four people would be better.01:02:18.865 --> 01:02:19.447


Oh, I think so.01:02:19.929 --> 01:02:22.679


Because what I forget, somebody else will remember.01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:27.358


Right With the two of us, we're just both forgetting the same people over and over.01:02:28.561 --> 01:02:29.023


Exactly.01:02:29.023 --> 01:02:30.836


That's just how we do it.01:02:30.889 --> 01:02:32.036


Yeah, that's how we operate.01:02:34.309 --> 01:02:38.480


So we'll get some people in here I'd like to get actually ron in here because he's, he's a music guy.01:02:38.480 --> 01:02:43.295


Um, even jason, for that matter, he, he's a.01:02:43.295 --> 01:02:44.838


He listens to a lot of music.01:02:44.838 --> 01:02:48.503


Uh, um, he's, he's gonna.01:02:48.503 --> 01:02:52.539


I can't talk country with him because he's a country, he likes a lot of country stuff.01:02:52.710 --> 01:02:57.195


I don't really listen to that too much Old stuff maybe.01:02:57.630 --> 01:03:03.735


Yeah, old stuff, but yeah, I mean, no matter what, who it is, everybody has their opinion on music.01:03:03.735 --> 01:03:08.541


Yeah, and that's what's great about this topic, because we can go on.01:03:08.610 --> 01:03:19.702


I think this might be one of our winter topics, just going on it's just, yeah, you could, you could, you know, and you could incorporate it into any number other subjects you can do.01:03:19.702 --> 01:03:22.036


You know, you could do 15 minutes of this right.01:03:22.336 --> 01:03:26.576


Well, I mean, we could go and we'll have other people and then right you know we could do the same subject.01:03:26.576 --> 01:03:28.039


We don't have to have the.01:03:28.039 --> 01:03:30.775


You know you're like oh man, they just touched on that last time.01:03:30.775 --> 01:03:31.858


Well, well, we have other people.01:03:32.219 --> 01:03:34.396


Right, and now you got other opinions.01:03:34.615 --> 01:03:36.552


Plus, it's our show, we can do whatever the hell we want.01:03:38.496 --> 01:03:39.960


Right, yeah, pretty much.01:03:39.980 --> 01:03:45.097


Yeah, so yeah, but yeah, I think this is a perfect time to wrap it up.01:03:45.398 --> 01:03:53.873


Okay, sounds good yeah well, thanks everybody for listening.01:03:53.873 --> 01:03:56.326


Thank you, ricker, absolutely, yeah, this is kind of you know, we were just like uh, we caught him out of deer season.01:03:56.326 --> 01:03:57.710


He's, you know, he's a deer hunting dude, you know.01:03:57.710 --> 01:04:00.498


Except, he's got a lot of poison oak on him right now.01:04:00.498 --> 01:04:17.420


So, good thing, nobody wants to rub up against him, no, but, um, you know, you can find us anywhere on your uh, where you, wherever platform you listen to like I said, almost famous radio podcast at gmailcom.01:04:17.420 --> 01:04:20.889


That's where I'd like everybody to check out.01:04:20.889 --> 01:04:22.195


Man, just, just just.01:04:22.195 --> 01:04:28.932


I'd love to have anybody that listens to this go on there and then tell us what they want to do.01:04:28.932 --> 01:04:29.795


Let us know.01:04:29.795 --> 01:04:33.217


Yeah, topics, yeah, if you want to hear something, let's do it.01:04:34.469 --> 01:04:43.018


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